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Personal Seat License Grief Counseling

June 30, 2008

The 5 stages of Personal Seat License Grief:
1) Denial- “I can’t believe we have to pay off those rich owners.”
2) Anger- “Those m*****-f****** greedy ****ing owners are hosing us with this cr*p. They s***. I am never going to another game!” (See other Giants bloggers who are stuck here on Stage 2.)
3) Bargaining- “I never asked for a new stadium. Maybe I can get my mother-in-law to pay the fee and then she’ll just give the seats to us when she dies anyway.”
4) Depression- I am going to have to pay up for the PSL, the money is going to go to those rich SOBs, and that thought depresses the hell out of me.
5) Acceptance- there are 15 years of people on a waiting list behind me who will pay for these PSL’s. Ultimatenyg points out that the seat licenses will be worth more than I pay for them, so it is what it is, next.

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Where have you gone, Wellington Mara? New York Giants Personal Seat Licenses Part 3

June 29, 2008

Yesterday we noted how Wellington Mara must be turning in his grave. Today Rich Cimini of the Daily News recounts another in a long line of stories about how Wellington Mara put the stadium fans first.

This is not a new story, as the seat license has been telegraphed for a while. If I am guilty of anything, it is an attitude of acceptance, of being resigned to this fate for so long. As soon as they announced they would be building the new stadium, we all knew the PSL was coming.

The only way to do battle is to vote with your feet. I had heard that Eagles fans had to put up 5K for the seat licenses, so Thursday’s announcement that it would be 1K for 90% of the upper tier (where I sit), it was almost good news. Zero would be better. But for the same reason that economically the Giants can charge it, you the season’s ticket holder better buy that license because the resale will be worth a lot more than 1K in the secondary market. So don’t get too misty about Wellington being gone, because many of the Giants fans out there have an instant economic boon coming if they want that. And if they just want to go to games and not have to pay for the right, at least you can buy the license and then resell it and use the proceeds for ~8 years of home games from Giants tickets exchange. All I am saying is that it could be a lot worse too– if the Giants put this thing into a Dutch Auction, you would be paying a lot more than they will be charging. And another thing… how many of you out there have been on the waiting list for over 10 years and now finally see an opportunity to get into the freaking stadium with your own seats?! I didn’t make any of these rules, but it is far more complicated than just being pissed at the Maras and the Tisches. It kind of reminds me of Manhattan renters who cry about having no rights… yet there they are not complaining about getting the insider’s price on a condo/coop conversion, OR having their apartment rent-controlled at below market prices, which CREATES the high prices for Manhattan apartments in the first place. Giants seasons tickets holders have been on rent stabilization for a while now. As a ‘renter’ you are entitled to NOTHING. Take risk and OWN. Or walk.

Andy Mara? Personal Seat Licenses?

June 28, 2008

lol. it’s capitalism, love it or leave it. I know… Wellington Mara is probably turning in his grave. I am trying to be realistic. We knew it was coming. For me, I wouldn’t have even bothered building a new stadiumthe old one works for me because I am not in demand of a luxury box. The bottomline is this is the marketplace. Check out the prices for PSL’s being floated in Dallas. The owners can do anything they please. The fans can stay home, spend the grand (or 20 grand) on a home theatre and let someone else pony up the money.

Since the Baseball Strike of ’94 I have not paid to see a single game (have gone to a total of 3 since then as a guest of others) and have only watched a total of ~20 games in 14 years on television after growing up with the sport. Have not watched a single pitch this season. May go to a Newark Bears game. Point is we all have choices. I think that the price of a football game (which represents 12.5% of the entire home season) is still fairly priced. Try spending 500 dollars going to an NBA regular season game where the players turn it on for only 1 quarter at the end. (I was once a courtside guest and was horrified by that one.)

There are other things that piss me off much more than these PSLs. Why do I get ads and far less video updates of other out of town games while AT THE STADIUM than I do at home in front of the television? What will s**k about the PSL’s is if/when they do little to enhance the STADIUM EXPERIENCE. Will we have to pay $20 to park our car and have it still be a nightmare? Will getting out of the stadium parking lot still take 40 minutes?

Make your voice heard. I think Giants fans got tired of the flex scheduling and all the evening games in ’06 and ’07 and finally got some relief in the ’08 schedule. If you really object to the PSLs, boycott them and then simply go to the stubhub/Giants tickets exchange and pay face. One of the original email guys from this blog paid $3800 for one ticket to the Super Bowl- he was in Glendale without a seat and was prepared to watch in his hotel room. Considering it was arguably the greatest game in Giants history, I am not sure if he overpaid.

What irks all of us is that if we all boycotted the PSL I am sure that the 15+ years of people on the waiting list (not to mention the corporates) would swoop in and devour the new availability. If it were not for having to go to football games at 8PM (at the end of December), I would be far more interested.

I will end the post with a little ditty from the Giants’ press release: “…we hope and believe that you will be pleased with the options when we send more detailed information on the stadiumʼs PSL programs.”

Personal Seat Licenses at Giants Stadium… here it comes

June 27, 2008

The first official word is breaking from Mara/Tisch on the introduction of PSLs for Giants tickets. If the PSLs are ‘only’ 1K for 90% of the upper bowl seats, that is not completely unreasonable or excessive. Considering that tickets for a season are ~$80 X 10 games = $800, it is not egregious to charge $1000 for essentially 30 years of control of that seat. Plus, the license will give you the ability to will the seat to others beyond immediate family.